Now on DevOps Radio: Learning and Unlearning DevOps with Stefan Simenon of ABN AMRO

Pump up the volume! Guest host Sacha Labourey is joined by Stefan Simenon, Head of Centre of Expertise Software Development & Tooling at ABN AMRO, in Episode 27 of DevOps Radio. In this episode, Sacha gets a personal invitation from Stefan to visit Amsterdam and the two discuss what it’s like to learn and unlearn software development.

Stefan explains how ABN AMRO started the company’s DevOps transformation from scratch by defining standards and guidelines with other teams to get buy in. However, they found that the process was slow. As competitors started moving faster and more fintechs popped up, it became imperative for ABN AMRO to adopt continuous integration (CI) and continuous delivery (CD) to meet velocity specific metrics and, ultimately, remain competitive.

Just a few years ago, the banking industry saw little adoption of cloud technologies. But, along the way, ABN AMRO began using the cloud as part of its internal infrastructure through both AWS and Azure. ABN AMRO went from no cloud to continuous delivery in the cloud, which was a substantial cultural shift. To make that shift, ABN AMRO implemented programs to help employees adopt this DevOps thinking, which took some unlearning and relearning.

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